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		<title>By: GreenSLi</title>
		<link>http://razetheworld.com/hardware/5304/#comment-657164</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenSLi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 09:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;cite&gt;razerboi &lt;a href=&quot;http://razetheworld.com/forum/topic/more-amd-bulldozer-platform-surface#post-332641&quot;&gt;said&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
is it just me or do the pictures of the processors on the Box look very much alike to the Intel processors? and those don&#039;t seem to have socket pins coming outta them
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&lt;p&gt;0_o noticed it now
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><cite>razerboi <a href="http://razetheworld.com/forum/topic/more-amd-bulldozer-platform-surface#post-332641">said</a>:</cite><br />
is it just me or do the pictures of the processors on the Box look very much alike to the Intel processors? and those don&#8217;t seem to have socket pins coming outta them
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<p>0_o noticed it now</p>
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		<title>By: Vortex</title>
		<link>http://razetheworld.com/hardware/5304/#comment-657163</link>
		<dc:creator>Vortex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 04:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Rabu Rabu &lt;a href=&quot;http://razetheworld.com/forum/topic/more-amd-bulldozer-platform-surface#post-332603&quot;&gt;said&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Sure is wishful thinking in here. And you are correct, Intel does what they want because noone tops them and if AMD actually did, guess what they&#039;d do. That&#039;s right, CRANK DEM PRICES GET MONEY GO GO GO. Because even if they did have a faster chip why take the chance? Why sell low when you can sell high and still get all the sheep that would have bought it to do so for more profit?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Corporations do everything to survive, they don&#039;t give you top of the line stuff for cheap, it ain&#039;t charity.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I guess it could go either way at that point. They&#039;d do whatever would give them the most profit. Even with just Intel&#039;s reputation, though, AMD might still have to lower prices if they had a superior product in order to sell it. There are those blind sheep out there who just religiously go with Intel because of the name. You also have to weigh the cost with how many people are going to buy the item.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Deus Qain &lt;a href=&quot;http://razetheworld.com/forum/topic/more-amd-bulldozer-platform-surface#post-332627&quot;&gt;said&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
One detail I think you guys are forgetting, is that Intel holds the patents on the CPU.  It&#039;s a pretty nasty market.  I also believe, that AMD is actually making advances in technology.  Honestly, if AMD had merged with NVidia, ATI would have died, and AMD would have become a real power house.  I&#039;m getting distracted.&lt;br /&gt;
I think this new design will be swallowed up by Intel, and you will see a new line of chips that mirror this design.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m still basing my next rig on AMD/Nvidia.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t think I could ever mix AMD and Nvidia. I&#039;d go with Intel and Nvidia if I could afford it, but I&#039;m happy with my AMD system right now.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><cite>Rabu Rabu <a href="http://razetheworld.com/forum/topic/more-amd-bulldozer-platform-surface#post-332603">said</a>:</cite><br />
Sure is wishful thinking in here. And you are correct, Intel does what they want because noone tops them and if AMD actually did, guess what they&#8217;d do. That&#8217;s right, CRANK DEM PRICES GET MONEY GO GO GO. Because even if they did have a faster chip why take the chance? Why sell low when you can sell high and still get all the sheep that would have bought it to do so for more profit?</p>
<p>Corporations do everything to survive, they don&#8217;t give you top of the line stuff for cheap, it ain&#8217;t charity.
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<p>I guess it could go either way at that point. They&#8217;d do whatever would give them the most profit. Even with just Intel&#8217;s reputation, though, AMD might still have to lower prices if they had a superior product in order to sell it. There are those blind sheep out there who just religiously go with Intel because of the name. You also have to weigh the cost with how many people are going to buy the item.</p>
<blockquote><p><cite>Deus Qain <a href="http://razetheworld.com/forum/topic/more-amd-bulldozer-platform-surface#post-332627">said</a>:</cite><br />
One detail I think you guys are forgetting, is that Intel holds the patents on the CPU.  It&#8217;s a pretty nasty market.  I also believe, that AMD is actually making advances in technology.  Honestly, if AMD had merged with NVidia, ATI would have died, and AMD would have become a real power house.  I&#8217;m getting distracted.<br />
I think this new design will be swallowed up by Intel, and you will see a new line of chips that mirror this design.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still basing my next rig on AMD/Nvidia.
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<p>I don&#8217;t think I could ever mix AMD and Nvidia. I&#8217;d go with Intel and Nvidia if I could afford it, but I&#8217;m happy with my AMD system right now.</p>
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		<title>By: razerboi</title>
		<link>http://razetheworld.com/hardware/5304/#comment-657162</link>
		<dc:creator>razerboi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 04:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;is it just me or do the pictures of the processors on the Box look very much alike to the Intel processors? and those don&#039;t seem to have socket pins coming outta them
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is it just me or do the pictures of the processors on the Box look very much alike to the Intel processors? and those don&#8217;t seem to have socket pins coming outta them</p>
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		<title>By: kyle</title>
		<link>http://razetheworld.com/hardware/5304/#comment-657161</link>
		<dc:creator>kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 03:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yea im sticking amd nvidia as well. Had and old 9000pro64mb card that kick ass.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea im sticking amd nvidia as well. Had and old 9000pro64mb card that kick ass.</p>
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		<title>By: Deus Qain</title>
		<link>http://razetheworld.com/hardware/5304/#comment-657157</link>
		<dc:creator>Deus Qain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 23:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;One detail I think you guys are forgetting, is that Intel holds the patents on the CPU.  It&#039;s a pretty nasty market.  I also believe, that AMD is actually making advances in technology.  Honestly, if AMD had merged with NVidia, ATI would have died, and AMD would have become a real power house.  I&#039;m getting distracted.&lt;br /&gt;
I think this new design will be swallowed up by Intel, and you will see a new line of chips that mirror this design.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m still basing my next rig on AMD/Nvidia.
&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One detail I think you guys are forgetting, is that Intel holds the patents on the CPU.  It&#8217;s a pretty nasty market.  I also believe, that AMD is actually making advances in technology.  Honestly, if AMD had merged with NVidia, ATI would have died, and AMD would have become a real power house.  I&#8217;m getting distracted.<br />
I think this new design will be swallowed up by Intel, and you will see a new line of chips that mirror this design.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still basing my next rig on AMD/Nvidia.</p>
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		<title>By: Rabu Rabu</title>
		<link>http://razetheworld.com/hardware/5304/#comment-657147</link>
		<dc:creator>Rabu Rabu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Vortex &lt;a href=&quot;http://razetheworld.com/forum/topic/more-amd-bulldozer-platform-surface#post-332593&quot;&gt;said&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Do you really think that intel is charging high prices out of necessity? They do it because no one can compete with them. If AMD could find a way to compete with intel and make something better or at least comparable, and then sell it for a lower price they would be making a lot more money than intel would. Intel&#039;s prices would go down as a result too. Intel just marks up their prices because they know people will buy it anyway. It is possible to sell it for less and still make a profit.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sure is wishful thinking in here. And you are correct, Intel does what they want because noone tops them and if AMD actually did, guess what they&#039;d do. That&#039;s right, CRANK DEM PRICES GET MONEY GO GO GO. Because even if they did have a faster chip why take the chance? Why sell low when you can sell high and still get all the sheep that would have bought it to do so for more profit?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Corporations do everything to survive, they don&#039;t give you top of the line stuff for cheap, it ain&#039;t charity.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><cite>Vortex <a href="http://razetheworld.com/forum/topic/more-amd-bulldozer-platform-surface#post-332593">said</a>:</cite><br />
Do you really think that intel is charging high prices out of necessity? They do it because no one can compete with them. If AMD could find a way to compete with intel and make something better or at least comparable, and then sell it for a lower price they would be making a lot more money than intel would. Intel&#8217;s prices would go down as a result too. Intel just marks up their prices because they know people will buy it anyway. It is possible to sell it for less and still make a profit.
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<p>Sure is wishful thinking in here. And you are correct, Intel does what they want because noone tops them and if AMD actually did, guess what they&#8217;d do. That&#8217;s right, CRANK DEM PRICES GET MONEY GO GO GO. Because even if they did have a faster chip why take the chance? Why sell low when you can sell high and still get all the sheep that would have bought it to do so for more profit?</p>
<p>Corporations do everything to survive, they don&#8217;t give you top of the line stuff for cheap, it ain&#8217;t charity.</p>
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		<title>By: gandu soor</title>
		<link>http://razetheworld.com/hardware/5304/#comment-657146</link>
		<dc:creator>gandu soor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 20:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, i&#039;m going to be swapping my p8p67 out for a sabretooth b3 or p8p67 pro b3 at the end of this month, just gonna pay the diff. could have a week ago since theyve had them in stock but have software tied to this board atm :/
ooh and what you&#039;ll notice with the 2500k is that it shines in cpu intense gaming like civ 5 and to an extent l4d2 etc.. it&#039;ll breath new fps when coupled with old gen cards such as the 9800gt, thats what i found. me personally, i needed it for my simulations, its blazingly fast for me :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, i&#8217;m going to be swapping my p8p67 out for a sabretooth b3 or p8p67 pro b3 at the end of this month, just gonna pay the diff. could have a week ago since theyve had them in stock but have software tied to this board atm :/<br />
ooh and what you&#8217;ll notice with the 2500k is that it shines in cpu intense gaming like civ 5 and to an extent l4d2 etc.. it&#8217;ll breath new fps when coupled with old gen cards such as the 9800gt, thats what i found. me personally, i needed it for my simulations, its blazingly fast for me <img src='http://razetheworld.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: peacepcf</title>
		<link>http://razetheworld.com/hardware/5304/#comment-657145</link>
		<dc:creator>peacepcf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 20:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;hahaha, i don&#039;t even have a motherboard for it yet, which sucks.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahaha, i don&#8217;t even have a motherboard for it yet, which sucks.</p>
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		<title>By: gandu soor</title>
		<link>http://razetheworld.com/hardware/5304/#comment-657143</link>
		<dc:creator>gandu soor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 19:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;cite&gt;peacepcf &lt;a href=&quot;http://razetheworld.com/forum/topic/more-amd-bulldozer-platform-surface#post-332588&quot;&gt;said&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
ohh man, shouldn&#039;t have bought a 2500k
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&lt;p&gt;why? did it stop working when green posted up those fx box shots?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><cite>peacepcf <a href="http://razetheworld.com/forum/topic/more-amd-bulldozer-platform-surface#post-332588">said</a>:</cite><br />
ohh man, shouldn&#8217;t have bought a 2500k
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<p>why? did it stop working when green posted up those fx box shots?</p>
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		<title>By: Vortex</title>
		<link>http://razetheworld.com/hardware/5304/#comment-657142</link>
		<dc:creator>Vortex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 19:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Rabu Rabu &lt;a href=&quot;http://razetheworld.com/forum/topic/more-amd-bulldozer-platform-surface#post-332561&quot;&gt;said&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Would you charge less for something that costed you twice as much as your average to make?
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&lt;p&gt;Do you really think that intel is charging high prices out of necessity? They do it because no one can compete with them. If AMD could find a way to compete with intel and make something better or at least comparable, and then sell it for a lower price they would be making a lot more money than intel would. Intel&#039;s prices would go down as a result too. Intel just marks up their prices because they know people will buy it anyway. It is possible to sell it for less and still make a profit.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><cite>Rabu Rabu <a href="http://razetheworld.com/forum/topic/more-amd-bulldozer-platform-surface#post-332561">said</a>:</cite><br />
Would you charge less for something that costed you twice as much as your average to make?
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<p>Do you really think that intel is charging high prices out of necessity? They do it because no one can compete with them. If AMD could find a way to compete with intel and make something better or at least comparable, and then sell it for a lower price they would be making a lot more money than intel would. Intel&#8217;s prices would go down as a result too. Intel just marks up their prices because they know people will buy it anyway. It is possible to sell it for less and still make a profit.</p>
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